Meeting201306

Transcript of meeting: http://meetlog.archivist.info/

Moderator: cradek

Secretary: seb_kuzminsky

Agenda Items:

• Pick a default time & day for future meetings. I propose 16:00 GMT on the last Saturday of each month. [seb_kuzminsky]
  • Changed to "next meeting will be held on Saturday July 27 at 16:00 UTC, later schedules to be discussed"
  • PASSED unanimously

• officially vote Seb as the next release manager.[Chris M]
  • PASSED unanimously

• There was talk about disbanding the board - should we talk more about that? [Chris M]
  • TABLED pending discussion

• I believe we need a chairperson for each meeting to help direct the flow of the meeting. Who determines the order of discussion? Who determines when it is time to move to the next item? Someone to LEAD, not to DIRECT. [lerman]
  • TABLED pending discussion.
  • It was agreed that it was useful to have a moderator and a secretary.
  • cradek did the moderator's job of updating the topic to reflect the phase of the meeting (which agenda item was being discussed or voted on)
  • seb_kuzminsky did the secretary's job of noting the outcome of the discussions & votes, updating this wiki page, and mailing outcomes to the emc-users and emc-developers mailing lists
  • We did not agree on how to select a moderator and secretary for the next meeting yet

• Set expectations for integration of RTOS + other bits currently living in mhaberler's git repo [zultron]
  • Changed to "we would like to support xenomai userspace and rt-preempt userspace into master branch before 2.6 is branched"
  • PASSED unanimously

• move git.linuxcnc.org to github & switch to pull request model for contributions [mhaberler]
  • TABLED

• split LinuxCNC proper and to-be MachineKit? into separate repos [mhaberler]
  • TABLED
  • but the idea of more modularity is generally liked

Meta-agenda:

• I propose that agenda items should be concrete proposals and not open questions, because "I think we should do this" will lead more quickly to positive results than "I want us to talk in an undirected way about this", or worse, "I want to gather opinions about this". These latter two are very appropriate outside the meeting, and the result can be formed into a proposal for the meeting agenda. [cradek]
  • Final text of proposal: "agenda items should be concrete proposals; those that aren't can be skipped and rewritten for the next meeting; discussion is best kept in the other channels, lists, forum"
  • PASSED unanimously

• I propose that we limit formal discussion of each topic to at most 15 minutes, and if at the end of that time we don't have suitable agreement, the topic be revisited at the next meeting with the expectation that a month's informal discussion will help. As soon as there does seem to be suitable agreement, we should proceed to a vote. [cradek]
  • PASSED unanimously

• I propose that "suitable agreement" be ideally a unanimous decision, but that total unanimity is not always necessary. [cradek]
  • TABLED to discuss more and bring up again in the next meeting

• I propose that during the meeting, we use the channel topic to describe the state of the meeting, something like "PROPOSAL: [summary] [proposer]" and "VOTE: [summary]" [cradek]
  • PASSED unanimously

• The moderator shall give a rundown of what the actual decision items are [mhaberler]
• A (separate) scribe should post a summary, including decision taken, no later than two days after meeting [mhaberler]
  • These two were combined. There will be a volunteer moderator and a volunteer secretary (possibly the same person). The moderator will move the meeting forward and the secretary will keep track of decisions, update the wiki, and mail out a report to the -users and -developers mailing lists.
  • PASSED unanimously

• tjtr33 ( Tom Powderly) i'd like to propose Michael Haberler's 'jog-while-paused'

heres a description http://tinyurl.com/pgswvxc and an implementation http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/jog-while-pause

• Not discussed